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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2005, 05:58:55 PM »
cant be a doctor then ;) next time just think about the lives u r saving and maybe that was what the mother wanted . but ur hands stink of fish after!
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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2005, 07:05:18 AM »
i dont think it works for goodieds and this is why, with all ordinary livebearers there is no attachment to the female, they are simply a hatchery for the eggs, therefore while the female may be dead the fry could still be alive inside her for many hours. eventually i expect cold and germs would kill them. however it has been proven scientifically that goodieds have filements attaching them to the female like an umbilical cord that feeds them while they are in the female therefore when the female dies so do the fry. see im not just a pretty face.
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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2005, 10:51:41 AM »
Kas is almost right, but even with Poeciliidae's the death of the female would resualt in oxygen starvation with in 30 mins to an houre.

The famale surly has to allow oxygen to pass through to the eggs and devloping fry (still with yolk sacks).
But yes with goodieds the female supplys all oxygen and nuterants needed via an "trophotaeniae" (umbilical cord) this is whats seen on newly born fry.
Thus resualting in a shorter time scale if u was gonna try this.

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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2005, 12:53:23 PM »
thanks i've learnt so much from reading ur posts! next time when a fish is about to die i'll have to watch them like a eagle/hawk,i cant remember the bird in the phrase!
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2005, 09:30:08 AM »
I think it would be a hawk jazzer!! But come to think of it, even I would not be sure.

What about Jenynsia's and halfbeaks chaps, do they have trophotania, I think that is what they are called. Would the same thing apply to them?
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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2005, 05:52:01 PM »
not sure about halfbeaks but i think the jenynsias do. i thnik!
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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2005, 09:13:52 PM »
Jenynsia's, I'm sure they do, but now u asked i wanna check again.
Halfbeaks, to be honest..... i have no idea. Will have to look these up.

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« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2005, 10:11:12 AM »
Aha, whilst you are at it, can you tell me what the 'gonopodium' and 'trophotania' are called in Halfbeaks and Jenynsiidae.
It will be interesting to know and will make me sound very knowledgable at fishkeeper's dinner parties (not that they are all that common).
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« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2005, 12:46:49 PM »
well i know the gonopodium in halfbeaks is called a andropodium
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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2005, 01:07:37 PM »
Aaah, thanks. Thats the first answer for the Viviparous Christmas Quiz sorted.
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« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2005, 06:21:04 PM »
christmas quiz?summers not even over yet!
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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2005, 08:27:51 PM »
LOL you wanting me to code a Quiz!!!!!!!!

I done once but it could only display the the resualt, but would be good to code into your Database to save it along your name.

But I not done this befor......

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« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2005, 08:30:54 PM »
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read here
http://www.livingfish.co.uk/livebearers/whatlive.htm

"However in Anablepidae the sexual organ is still called an "gonopodium" but it’s slightly different to the Poeciliidae species, the fin rays start off normally then the rays are twisted around each other forming a tube which sperm flows through during mating.
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« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2005, 10:22:17 PM »
lol
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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2005, 08:40:41 AM »
oops, did't see this page. doh
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